How much can you GAIN through investing into your appearance? As it turns out, quite much ... but you can LOSE quite much as well. About unusual relationships, on-the-edge sexuality and crime.
The Uniqueness Of Venus OOB
On average Venus goes OOB twice a year but sometimes once or three times a year. There are years when Venus stays in regular orbit throughout their whole duration! Venus can stay Out of Bounds for one day up to 56-60 days.
People with OOB planets have something extraordinary about them that makes them stand out from the crowd. And for this reason:
a) they cope with circumstances troublesome for most of us.
b) they get into trouble most of us wouldn't.
Venus going OOB manifests as unusual circumstances associated with AT LEAST one of the following life domains!
Venus In Your Life Symbolizes...
a) all kinds of relationships with others, your need to establish and remain in harmony with yourself and others.
b) the ability to be happy e.g. in a conventional way by earning money, satisfying your needs, pleasures or dressing in a respectful and elegant way.
c) love, a sense of being loved, your emotional life and close relationships.
d) all sorts of art, personal fashion and style, materiality (you need money to afford self-indulgence) and everything that embellishes or appeals.
Venusians have a CLEAR aesthetic sense and like beauty.
e) (women) perception and ways of expressing femininity. This isn't about the maternal side of Self, but a woman being a companion, advocate of beauty and courtesan. (men) Preferred type of woman - everything that attracts them, especially sexually.
Now that you know the basics, it's time for the specifics.
An Appearance That Arouses Interest
The beauty (or ugliness) that stands out from the crowd can characterize anyone, especially nowadays when a thick wallet allows us to improve this and that. However people with Venus OOB are tempted to exceed the norms in their approach to their appearance.
Source: https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Cavill,_Henry |
Our first Venus OOB owner is Henry Cavill who at the end of 2019 found himself on a rising wave of popularity thanks to playing the role of Geralt in Netflix's "The Witcher" series. What do you think about his muscularity?
It stimulates many women's imagination and many guys fantasize about this type of biceps as well. Natal Venus opposite Neptune gives Cavill a certain kind of charm. And yet the same Venus is Out of Bounds, which is why Henry Cavill doesn't really look like in these movie shots; Cavill looks like that when he is hungry, dehydrated and supervised by A SET of dietitians/fitness specialists.
This kind of beauty display (Venus) is unattainable for an ordinary mortal (OOB influence). Not even for someone with Cavill's big physique, capable of working hard with the body. Cavill prepared for such pleasing-to-eye shots by following a strict 4-day fasting and dehydration schedule. The visual end result was impressive.
People with Venus OOB are prone to taking such drastic steps in order to achieve a nice aesthetic appearance. Cavill succeeded where others would damage their health. Let's add that the circumstances were also favorable for him. Cavill was already a fairly well-known actor having a group of specialists at his disposal, 24/7.
The presence of Out of Bounds planets tells that a person might walk on a thin line between the conventional path and fraud/crime. Many wonder whether Henry Cavill's specialists have given him drugs altering his appearance or muscle mass. Successful preparation of such muscle mass is reserved for the few actively working with the body since teenage times.
Whelp, don't Venus and Neptune sell a fairy tale anyway?
Lifting
Our next Venus OOB owner is Cher. In the 1980s she became a symbol for many feminists. Being an EXAMPLE for others in general is a characteristic feature of many ladies with Venus OOB. Whether they want it or not.
Cher described herself as "a girl from the plastic surgery poster." She continued changing her appearance in an exaggerated and excessive way, while also having financial resources unavailable to your everyday Joe. Cher started plastic surgery before it was common practice.
Cher's natal Venus conjunct Uranus and trine Jupiter explains her verve to go "beyond the standard appearance". Venus OOB indicates a desire for beauty UNRESTRICTED. Jupiter's support and the touch of Uranus in Cher's natal chart is an example of cosmic support that made it possible to efficiently manifest her visions of femininity. Without it, she could have bent to the pressure and never reach her goal.
When It Is Hard ... To Love Yourself
In one way or another people with OOB planets strive to achieve a high level/mastery in the field of life represented by the planet itself or the house(s) ruled by it. In order for these people to have a chance for self-development at OOB life spheres, they need to exhaust the commonly present solutions used in the environment/industry.
Many folks with OOB Venus strive for mastery in love that for various reasons seems to be inaccessible.
OOB planet owners can have extremely high levels of physical/mental/emotional energy that they find difficult to control. In case of OOB Venus these "extraordinary energy levels" often manifests as enormous sensitivity (particularly with Venus in Cancer), a longing for love that can fill the heart to the brim.
And now attention! People with Venus OOB are extremely susceptible to low self-esteem.
Judy Garland, an American actress, singer and dancer with an OOB Venus in Cancer. Cancer's trademark trait i.e. mutability was clearly visible - Garland was shy and bold, sensitive and blunt. A planet in Cancer OOB is capable of showing us an unparalleled swing of moods/personality.
Garland was remembered primarily from her Dorothy role in "The Wizard of Oz". The movie allowed the audience to see in Garland everything that her OOB Venus in Cancer had the best - charm, grace, sensitivity and innocence. Garland masterfully presented the archetype of such Venusian woman and people loved her for that.
There was just this one little issue...
Despite MANY years in the entertainment industry, Garland was still associated with this one role. People put her on the "pedestal of femininity" and had no intention of letting her step down.
That was not all.
Can I Be Beautiful When I Weigh So Much?
Judy Garland felt the pressure of society (Pluto on the Ascendant) and the industry that placed her solely in roles of women much younger than what her age suggested. OOB Venus shows that fate landed a punch right onto self-esteem with weight issues being the trigger. Garland had to constantly be on a diet to maintain the "desired appearance" - the acting industry's requirement. The same movie producers reinforced her in the fact that she was an "ugly duckling".
Garland was 13 when she was employed in the film agency. Her bosses had already a problem with her appearance - she was too old to play children roles and too young to play adult ones. Garland was forced to adopt a new image: different way of dressing, elaborate make-up, procedures stylizing her nose etc. It's just that the new image was artificial.
The intense planetary placements such as Pluto conjunct the Ascendant tell us about the type and scale of life's challenges. Garland had great endurance and strength, being able to cope physically and mentally for 20 years in such a industry. Pluto symbolizes this willpower and indicates the sacrifices necessary to survive - Garland never regained a healthy self-esteem (Ascendant).
Garland was coping with something that most wouldn't endure - such flexibility is characteristic of OOB planets.
"Beyond Bounds" Meaning Genius
All fields of art (singing, music, etc.) are Venus' domain. And it's in art we find people with an unprecedented artistic sense, mastery in capturing beauty and ... more than difficult adversities.
Camille Claudel was a French sculptor with Venus OOB. She was impetuous. She didn't do what typical girls did at the time; she liked running in the woods, listening to ghost stories etc. Her mother reacted to this with disgust. The mother Louise hated Camille and wished she were a man. Camille even got her name after her deceased brother.
Louise never appreciated her daughter for her style or achievements. It was a huge blow to Claudel's identity as female and artistic creativity. Fortunately her father noticed something greater than a mere talent for art. And he was right. Many years later Claudel was described as "A revolt against nature: a woman genius."
Takeaway: Venus OOB manifested in childhood as difficulties with enjoying life, lack of one parent's love (Venus square Saturn).
Punches from life, however, did not cease ...
People With Venus OOB May Love, Often Not Very Wisely, But Too Much
At one point Claudel became a student of the highly regarded sculptor Auguste Rodin. Over time they got into a PASSIONATE affair. Camille was a student, lover as well as a model and muse for Rodin. And eventually she achieved mastery in sculpting. This was NOT a typical relationship with a loved one.
Emotional life issues appeared. Rodin didn't want to leave his wife, thus am official relationship was out of the question. As time went on Claudel and Rodin stopped sleeping together but Camille had to continue working with him and at times rely on him financially.
Financial issues appeared. It wasn't easy to be a woman and Claudel didn't earn as much as her master. She actually felt like being in his shadow. In the distant future Claudel's father death will cause her to lose whatever financial support she had. Claudel's mother, the heir to the family estate, didn't want to share anything with her daughter because she thought Camille Claudel's public affair was a stain to the family name.
And if that's not enough to convince you of a destructive unwise love, there's also the matter of ABORTION that Rodin forced on Claudel.
The Natal Chart And The Malefics
Claudel has Venus OOB along with a natal chart emphasizing Mars (Ascendant in Scorpio, Moon in Aries). Her expression of femininity and artistic creativity was a STRUGGLE; she had to express herself in a deeper and more violent way than any conventional methods. Mars-oriented chart and a strong Fire element (Sun, Jupiter in Sagittarius) symbolized Claudel's masculine personality traits that aided and provided her with fortitude, skills and even strength necessary for sculpting, working with marble etc.
Mars is still a malefic. Claudel art style was brave, passionate and sexual, which didn't suit the woman of those times. She had to deal with frustration and rejection from the conservative environment.
It got even worse.
Saturn And The Downward Spiral
A natal chart with OOB planets and an emphasis on malefics manifests through adversity where it hurt the most. Unfortunately the story of Camille Claudel ends very bitterly.
Her Venus OOB squares Saturn.
Rodin, her master of sculpting and lover, overtime became jealous and felt threatened by her talent. Though it is said he helped her materially as much as he could, so the issue was elsewhere...
Saturn symbolizes the most mundane aspect of living. Claudel couldn't cope with the market and sculpting itself - the materials were TOO EXPENSIVE. She couldn't afford it long-term. Finding sponsors for such a blunt and out-of-ordinary art proved to be a challenge.
Claudel had great skills, shaky but existent financial support and out-of-ordinary adaptation skills (OOB characteristics). Manifesting the full potential of a OOB planet while simultaneously dealing with adversities proved to be too big of a human feat.
Eventually Claudel started drinking. She wore rags, fell into poverty. She destroyed most of her works, the symbols of genius (Saturn, shooting yourself in the foot). At the age of 49 Claudel went to a psychiatric hospital (Saturn and 12 house) where she stayed until her final days, whole 30 years.
Sometimes her brother visited her, the sister came only once and her mother didn't bother.
Now get this.
Many thought Claudel wasn't mentally ill or that she found peace. Her family, out of spite, isolated her from the world and the activities she loved the most. The family consistently rejected pleas and idea of letting her go on her own.
I have to point this one out - Claudel's challenges were very unique as she had FOUR OOB planets: Mercury, Venus, Mars and Uranus.
Sixth sense
How about something positive Mr. Astrologer? Yessir.
We can expect more from people with Venus OOB in terms of the artistic sense.
They are able to quickly identify genius or a style that goes beyond clichés. A good example of that is Robert Schumann, composer, pianist with OOB Venus and Mars as well.
They are able to quickly identify genius or a style that goes beyond clichés. A good example of that is Robert Schumann, composer, pianist with OOB Venus and Mars as well.
Schumann was also a music critic and his opinion had great importance. At one point, after years of hiatus, he published an article worshiping a then unknown Brahms fellow. Schumann proclaimed him "the Chosen One" whose "destiny was to give a perfect expression to the times." Many classical musicians would certainly say that Schumann's description was accurate, although Brahms needed many years to show his potential.
Other artists with Venus OOB: Auguste Rodin (yes, this Rodin), Henri Rousseau, Albrecht Dürer, Robert Raushenberg.
Women Rights
At some stage of life many people with Venus OOB, mostly women, come across FEMINIST philosophy that they resonate strongly with.
Louise Abbema, both in her work and private life, was oriented on gender equality and independence of women. She promoted the other women's work to offset men's prejudice toward female artists. Abbema often painted women in men's clothing, doing activities typical for men.
Abbema's art was not limited to gender topics; she also painted flowers and portraits of famous people. But she's mostly remembered of her actions for women.
Mary Cassatt (painter) also had feminist viewpoints and was an advocate of gender equality. Her early travels to many European capitals (strong Gemini) allowed her to discover and shape the direction she wanted to take in life.
Cassatt firmly criticized the Paris Salons for their politics and traditional tastes.
She DISREGARDED modern art and its top artists (Aquarius).
She DISREGARDED modern art and its top artists (Aquarius).
Many people with Venus OOB face financial difficulties because of their style and values. This was also the case with Cassatt who realized that painting gender equality motifs wouldn't ensure FINANCIAL SUCCESS. And so she began to paint other motifs, gradually transitioning into avant-garde which brought her success. Ultimately she painted exclusively mothers with children (Venus in Cancer, family), thus Moon-like motifs.
Despite the difficulties, she never gave up her art, wanting to make a living from it. She had to use her talent, adapt accordingly (giving up gender issues) to be able to continue painting.
A Rich Emotional Life
We can expect more from relationships out of folks with Venus OOB. This could an unusual way of showing feelings or an above average outlook on marriage etc. But in its most mundane manifestation Venus OOB point towards many partners (not necessarily marriages). There is always a twist in their mating history e.g. high number of partners or a weird nature of relationships themselves.
Interestingly men with OOB Venus seem to be those with many wives than the other way around. Examples: Larry King (radio and television host, 8 marriages), Tony Curtis (actor, 6 marriages) or Frank Sinatra (singer, 4 marriages). Women can also have many husbands e.g. Judy Garland (5 husbands).
From Sexuality To Debauchery
Many Venus OOB people are open to experiences that others might consider unfettering, to say at least. Life seems to send them opportunities to taste the sexual sphere of life in a free, unrestricted way. This can mean both a liberating process or an ordeal. Usually OOB Venus folks get used to sex-related topics due to their adaptability.
In fact they can feel so comfortable that they are happy to use sex to earn money. Art is a great medium for presenting spicy subjects that may find justification in society's eyes (or one's parents). In 2010 Cher created her first burlesque musical and this wasn't meant to be her first and only endeavor in this direction. Next we have Al Parker (born June 25, 1952), a gay porn actor, producer, director of .... porn movies, naturally. He started his career as Hugh Hefner's butler at the Playboy Mansion.
Here's a weird one for you.
Sometimes sexuality can REALLY go beyond any bound whatsoever. Frenchman Pierre Molinier (born on April 13, 1900) was a painter and photographer fascinated by erotic fetishism. His photos contained many motifs related to sexual obsessions, masks, corsets, stockings etc. He also did a photo session of his deceased sister to shortly after penetrate her and fulfill a plethora of his fetishes (to put it mildly). Molinier had Venus OOB in Gemini (on the Ascendant) conjunct Pluto and opposite Jupiter/Uranus.
An unusual creature, stripped of values and morals - the most extreme realization of Venus OOB.
Marriage = slavery?
William Blake was among others a poet and painter. In his work he often delved into subjects related to Sagittarius e.g. religion (Christianity), human development and society. He claimed that from a young age he has had a series of visions of God, angels etc. This had shaped his philosophical and spiritual attitude towards life in general.
Blake's work is full of reflections on values and love. He's considered the precursor of the "free love" movement (started in the 1820s) and openly described marriage as slavery. He opposed the view of sexual purity as a virtue. Although he was a proponent of sensual pleasures, not at the price of the well-being of others. He didn't support predatory love nor exploitation of others.
Blake was looking for a natural, holy love (Venus OOB) unhindered by jealousy or desires to have a partner. When speaking about marriage as slavery he meant to teach how marriage reduces love to obligations in a state-sanctioned relationship.
Lawlessness
The presence of Out of Bounds planets tells that a person might walk on a thin line between the conventional path and fraud/crime. With Venus OOB we deal with crimes related to relations, partnerships or art.
An excellent example of this is Frank Sinatra who has Venus and Mercury OOB as well (his voice is as distinctive as his biography and relations). Quote:
"[If it had not been for my interest in music I would] Probably have ended in a life of crime".
Before becoming popular Sinatra belonged to the group of "friends" of Willie Moretti - the godfather of one of New York's five largest mafia families. He had numerous friendships with high-ranking gangsters and participated in mafia-organized conferences. Sinatra's first wife was also related to the captain of the aforementioned gangster family.
In 1939 Sinatra signed a recording contract with the leader of one of the music bands. A year later, after gaining wide publicity, Sinatra wanted to withdraw from the contract but the leader refused the deal. According to rumors Sinatra asked his gangster friend for help in settling the matter. And so the band leader had a gun put to his throat, was threatened with death and finally sold Sinatra the rights to a recording contract ... for one dollar.
Another owner of Venus (and Mercury) OOB Jürgen Bartsch was a serial killer. At the age of 15 he murdered 4 boys aged 8-13 and tried to kill one more.
In the context of Venus OOB - Bartsch didn't experience love, was beaten and sexually abused by most of his childhood and teenage years. His original life sentence was changed to 10 years in a juvenile center and life-long psychological care. He even managed to get married, which given his past was an extraordinary feat.
To avoid a lifetime psychiatric, Bartsch gave voluntary consent to castration. During the surgery he mistakenly (wink, wink) received a lethal dose of the substance used for anesthesia.
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